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Post by saradon on Nov 16, 2013 3:59:23 GMT 9
Raiding boss can be very fun. But not here in Divine Soul. Due to some imbalance and structure of combos of the characters, specific class of character have an easier time in these bosses compared to other class of character. And boss raid is supposed to be an event dungeon that is very challenging and not possible to be solo-ed.
Don't get me wrong, the boss itself is quite strong and quite hard to kill. A slasher takes about 30 minutes to solo this boss. A priest takes about 45 minutes, simply because of the design structure of the characters and the combo skill available. The boss can actually be solo-ed.
Below is my humble suggestion how we can make raid-boss a bigger event and an absolute end game content.
1) Compulsory 4-man party before able to enter the raid-boss dungeon
2) If possible, every player can only enter the raid-boss dungeon once, or twice a day. As boss raid is also considered as an event dungeon, we should remove the fatigue requirement upon entry, and instead use a limit counter to limit number of entries per day. I believe the game engine - gamebyro is able to achieve that.
3) Upon completion of the event, all party members will be entitled to a definite reward - the (divine, or whatever) box. And also include some goodies, such as Level 40 divine stones for enchantment in the final bonus stage to sweeten this whole raid-boss deal.
4) Empower the raid boss, increase it's HP slightly so that a party of 4 member will take around 30 minutes to defeat it.
5) Lower the level requirement of raid boss to level 35. As level 40 is the level cap, players who reach level 40 can only aim to do raid boss. This make the whole game play very pointless. Player can slowly inch towards level 40 and at the meantime, enjoy the opportunity to combat raid-boss from level 35 onward. I believe there are more raid-boss dungeon to be released and we can slowly increase the level requirement from there.
I think raid-boss must be treated like a 'big thing' as it is indeed, the highlight of end game content currently in divineSoul game.
Kindly do consider my suggestion.
Cheers,
Saradon.
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Post by Songhyekyo on Nov 16, 2013 12:56:42 GMT 9
Each class have strong point, can't duress all class do the same, you're Priest, u have strong damage, biggest AOE damage, fastest block damage, many skill effect, highest defense, health skill give not many but reduce your gold need to buy Potion, a luxury item. U know, slasher amor +4 also weaker than Priest amor +0, I understand that there are strengths and weaknesses, they will offset each other
1. I don't like it, sometime i'm very discomfort because many people too slowly and capitalization other people, he join the party and only pickup, wait the reward, no help anything, u can't kick he on dungeon, it's very enrage & trouble
- It's blobal server, many people stay in other continent, play in different time, u can't wait for enough team, ex: when SEA daytime, US's nighttime, SEA play game, US go to bed and gainsay
2. Haven't many people want to pvp for fun, all want to be a winner, it's make they go out when see the item or level enemy, right? And when u maxed lvl, only pvp & boss raid ? If limited raid boss, nothing to do. Chat? other people need time to train, no have free time chat with you. Summary, maxed lvl same the offline
3. If same the reward => really boring, no competition, yeah u have good weapon i also have o.O !!! ... hey hey, i have a new amor, oh... me too T_T, Oh shjt.
4. I think i need to buy the new mouse and maybe a gamepad now
5. No idea
You are not wrong, but you're playing one game by your own desires and wants more than everyone,
And i simply wanted to conquer challenges and have more friends
/Ps: If Priest is a God, i think u will merrily more
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Post by saradon on Nov 16, 2013 16:19:57 GMT 9
Dear All,
Firstly, let's look at the definition of raid boss. Here is one from wiki.
Lets take a close look at understanding what a raid boss is.
It is a very difficult boss where the boss monster is so hard to kill.
Boss raid encourages team-play of many players, rather than solo
Boss raid is not a dungeon where players come together and discuss strategy to defeat it.
Divinesoul boss raid is at most a very difficult dungeon, it does not satisfy the definition of a 'boss raid' and does not capture the essence of boss raid concept.
Next, let's look at what the developers wrote about Divinesoul in greenlight,
Take a look when they say boss raids and adventure. I think that level 39 dungeon on hard mode is more difficult to clear than the boss raid itself.
This is a new idea. Perhaps boss raid has more bosses. 1 map, 1 boss, a total of 5 maps in the dungeon. Before killing the grand boss Chimera (level 12 boss), we need to kill other other mini bosses (level 1,5,8 dungeon) before we can reach the Chimera boss. This makes the boss-raid experience more fulfilling and takes a longer time to complete.
As event dungeons require fatigue, there is no way players will give up leveling opportunity to do these dungeons. If we remove fatigue requirement in event dungeons, it become attractive to play because when we are out of fatigue, it is time to do event dungeon.
@kyo,
I have played every character class to at least level 25. I based everything I say based on my experience with individual class. Did you ever tried playing the priest class and at least complete all its combo?
Priest have high AOE effect but not the best damage. It attacks slowly compared to other classes. Its DPS output is lower in the long run. Mage is very bursty and can deal a lot of damage in a very short time. Slasher attacks quickly and deals more damage over a period of time. Fighter is about the same as priest, in my opinion.
Remember the Halloween event that give you instant 100% HP pots (10 of them) per exchange? How is heal potions a luxury item right now? If we want to talk about luxury item, the skill book: healing circle is indeed a luxury item as I have not encountered a single one in the entire game. And I online almost everyday.
Right now the armor calculation is very insignificant. For an additional 300 armor points, the monster damage reduce from 1.8k to 1.5k. I would say 1 point in armor reduces damage by 1. The effect of lower armor stats is not significant at all. You might want to do some experiment to test the effects of armor on damage reduction.
As in your replies,
1) You feel discomfort when people capitalize and do nothing in dungeon. This is a clear sign you are not a team player but a solo player. Everyone in the party are at least your friend and if you think about them this way as if they are a burden, please consider quitting mmorpg. Right now divinesoul is a solo game rather than an mmorpg. There is motivation for party other players, and there is no little need for partying. This is the also a reason why divinesoul is not getting positive reviews by gamers and reviewers. In WoW raid boss is 25man (sometimes 40man) and it lasts for 4 hours. And guess what, we managed to do it, and I have cleared almost all the raid bosses in WoW. What is looking for 3 party members compared to 25-40 raid team? The problem now is there is so little online active players in this game, and my suggestions are aimed at bettering the game play so that players who try this game at least get a positive impression of it.
2) I suggest ladder mode for PVP to be level 35 onwards. In this way, everyone's level is more or less the same and there is no agony in losing due to being lower level. And you asked what to do at level 40, there is nothing to do. In all other games, once you reach level cap, the game play and contents end, and really, all that's left is to chat and do nothing in the game.
3) We all know divine boxes have a random drop rate. Seem like you are the one who wants and desire everything, and not me. You are doing boss raid everyday and amass more than 150 boxes so far just to get the ring. And you have already gotten the legend grade belt. The divine boxes drop for everyone is a fair game and what you get from it is all about luck.
4) You need a new mouse simply because you raid so many times, and you do it solo.
You mention in your closing statement, that I play the game to my own desire. Sorry but I am taking the time to voice out problems with the game, errors and bugs and giving constructive suggestions. I am sacrificing time I have in game for farming goodies and killing the raid boss to benefit the community in one way or another. How is this selfish desire of my own? Yes I am attempting to enchant my item further but to each players there are different aspect of the game that entices them. I want more than everyone? I stopped farming PVP set. I only have the armor, pants and weapon. How about you kyo, you have the full set, the PVP weapon and the Raid boss weapon, and you are now farming for the legend grade ring. Are you not also driven by your desire of wanting more than everyone else?
I am here trying to convince the community that this game needs to be spiced up as it is kind of boring right now. The amount of content is so little and the end game is so boring, that right now we need to make sure every game play and game modes and dungeons counts towards a good game and not make them a useless fanciful accessory in this game.
I am currently a final year student and doing research work everyday. I research on new material basis, mix chemicals and wait for 6-8 hours for the resin to settle. During the waiting time, I am free to do whatever I want thus I have some time to spare in gaming. And it so happens when I do a search on new mmorpg, this is the first game on the game list, meaning the newest launched mmorpg at that time.
Cheers,
Saradon.
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Post by Songhyekyo on Nov 16, 2013 18:13:38 GMT 9
My english very very bad, too long for me read  Summary, play slasher pls |
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Post by Songhyekyo on Nov 16, 2013 18:21:02 GMT 9
 I envy because of it |
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Post by Jitsu on Nov 17, 2013 14:25:23 GMT 9
The average time suggested was 15 minutes. This isn't the only boss raid in the game, there will be more. You may find the others very difficult compared to the Chimera.
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Post by Songhyekyo on Nov 18, 2013 19:39:45 GMT 9
Take me your char, i will show u solo raid boss <30 min =))
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